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South Side High School in Rockville Centre is among the best on Long Island, according to new rankings. (Patch file photo)
joe thrapp April 24, 2014 at 11:19 am
Going to a Catholic High School is a privilege and not a requirement. Catholic HS are exclusionary.Read More So they can expel a child for any reason with no parental recourse. If the Vatican interceded on behalf of an expelled student, the student would still be expelled. They are not open to all people, just a small slice of America. They are not representative of all. That is why they are excluded from national public school ratings. If Catholic High Schools don't play by the same rules as the public schools then they should be exclude from the national ratings. Anyway Regis and Chaminade don't even show up in the best 50 Catholic HS in US. These are the top Catholic HS in New York, All Hallows High School, Bronx Cathedral Preparatory Seminary, Elmhurst The Montfort Academy, Katonah
t1956d April 24, 2014 at 12:43 pm
Joe, I don't think exclusionary is the right word. To exclude is to prevent someone from beingRead More considered. Any student can take the co-op and apply to a Catholic High School. Acceptance is open to all (even non-Catholics) but is based on grades and co-op scores- that's not exclusion. I' d also call attendance a choice as opposed to a privilege as the latter implies a correlation between wealth and attendance. I know many families where one and sometime both parentswork two jobs to afford t send their son/daughter to a Catholic school - again, their choice. Lastly I disagree with "small slice of America" comment. At least on Long Island Catholic High Schools are much more ethnically diverse than public schools. It's no secret that Nassau and Suffolk County schools suffer from a severe case of de facto segregation. You are right about the ability to expel a student but to expel a student s/he had to have been accepted in the first place, not excluded.
joe thrapp April 24, 2014 at 12:57 pm
Public HS is open to all regardless of disability, academics or ability to pay,Catholic schools areRead More not required, therefore they exclude those children in need. The teachings of Christ do not exclude.... This is very surprising to me because the foundations of Catholic schools are based on the teachings of Jesus Christ. I can never see my Lord turn away needy children who require our help.
monkey lewis April 24, 2014 at 01:45 am
communist core=Obamas whore
Pat Richards April 24, 2014 at 07:04 am
@monkey Lewis, It's not communist, it's fascist. The state and business working together. FascistRead More Mussolini called it corporatism.
DebinRye April 24, 2014 at 08:13 am
Hmmm . . . I keep hearing paranoia from left and right, but how are we to truly evaluate theRead More education we are paying for? Like so many issues that confront us today, there is no light; only heat. No method will be perfect. And, no disrespect intended, but I'm not sure parents are best situated to evaluate the efficacy of their children's education. After all, most were products of the very system we so desperately need to improve. We need SOME objective measure. Any ideas?
Billy Joel applauded and smiled during at the “The River of Dreams: A Billy Joel Tribute Concert” in Glen Cove. Credit: Glen Cove School District
loving lindy April 11, 2014 at 03:38 pm
I have not been on the Patch in some time and see this nice story about Billy Joel and of courseRead More there is a negative comment by "Get Off My Lawn." Why can't you just say nothing. Why need to comment. This is why no one reads the Patch anymore. Everyone gets so tired of the toxic people. I agree with Carol H. Enough already. Nicely done Billy! Now I am officially done with this on-line news thread. So please Get Off My Lawn, educate us all how "you are entitled to your opinion." No one cares!
teena April 11, 2014 at 07:05 pm
so sick of hearing everyone blaming the parents. the show ended, the parents were all leaving (toRead More get back to work!) and billy joel was sitting right by the exit. all the parents had to pass him. the 'mob' that bothered him for autographs was teachers who brought out their soloist along with their parents. he left because half the auditorium was leaving!
Gabe Gonsalves April 14, 2014 at 10:34 am
Billy Joel is a class act.......I know him from my younger days. The man is true to his roots.
The Nassau County Science Competition is set for June 8. Credit: Center for Science Teaching and Learning
Christopher Wendt April 10, 2014 at 07:32 am
Very strange that the names of the officers of the Center for Science Teaching and Learning (an IRSRead More 501C3 organization in RVC) cannot be found anywhere. CSTL is running this competition. WHO ARE THEY? Let me know if anyone finds out. ----------------------------------------------------------------- My other question is, what does Nassau County have to do with education? The answer is, actually, nothing. Nor should they.
Cosmo April 10, 2014 at 08:48 am
It is another opportunity to put Mangano's name on something that he has nothing to do with.
Frank T April 10, 2014 at 09:11 am
An historic building was just demolished at Old Bethpage Restoration. Thank you Ed Mangano!
Photo: @EARizzo57 Twitter
Irish Rover April 9, 2014 at 10:51 pm
Liz, my point is a reality about home values. Not a stretch as you suggest. I know a principal whoRead More invited local realtors in for open houses to demonstrate how well the school was doing to offset the negative publicity portrayed by media. I saw firsthand parents who relocated to another school based on test scores. Parents don't trust realtors, they look on Greatschools.com and see a test score. Newspapers and news outlets report test scores, they don't take the time to break down why they schools score low let alone why they score high. Most parents won't spend the time to interview or do a walkthrough for a public school before attending.
Irish Rover April 9, 2014 at 10:53 pm
Liz, not to beat a dead horse, do your own research about test scores and home values. I think youRead More will be convinced.
Irish Rover April 9, 2014 at 11:18 pm
Disgusted, you are talking about teacher union leadership. IMO Tenure and teacher unions are killingRead More the quality of American education. Be accountable or get out of the profession.
Rob April 1, 2014 at 01:22 pm
Very insightful article...I believe this is whats known as trolling. My interaction with the PatchRead More is really waning. Since when is it acceptable to upload pictures of twitter posts and call it journalism?
Lorraine DeVita April 6, 2014 at 01:40 pm
And it was BECASUE of the warm fuzzy teacher that we spent hundreds of dollars monthly for tutors.Read More I would send her a belated bill if she is still around..
yeahitzme April 6, 2014 at 02:18 pm
We all agree what a vital impact teachers have on their students and all of our children...whoRead More surely are the future of society. We all want what is best for all and there is no one exact road or method to get there...adapting and being flexible depending on any situation is a skill that that garners best results...finding what works and building upon that will most likely have positive results. And yes...mushy is definately not the desired method of instruction and yes...those tutoring bills can add up quite fast with the going rate...Unfortunately...my child had one of those no nonsense teachers and that was the subject I was paying those tutors for...A child that shuts down...can't learn...that approach did not work for them. I am sure there is a comfortable middle ground where both firm and supportive instruction can coexist successfully for both teacher and student. I think it comes down to a respect from and for the teacher! We all know it only takes a short moment to tear something down that may have taken years to build up....Teaching is not easy in any regard...but the rewards are great...as Marion accidentally found out on Facebook when feedback from long past students confirmed...she had gotten things "right" in her instruction along the way... Great effort from all involved is required to achieve success in most cases..albeit that natural prodigy genius that is very rare to come by! May we ALL be successful...and joyful...whichever road we choose!
Lorraine DeVita April 6, 2014 at 05:52 pm
Excellent points! Going too far in either direction has consequences...mostly negative. RespectRead More to me must be earned or at the very least in some cases retained , title or position, alphabet soup before or after a name , does not automatically grant respect. The PERSON earns the respect ...... ie- .the OFFICE of the president deserves respect despite WHO is sitting in the chair, the Person who is IN the job needs to earn the respect OF the title.
New York State Education Commissioner Dr. John King fielded angry questions and comments at a Common Core forum on Long Island in 2013.
Commack Resident March 21, 2014 at 11:02 am
My son is a top student in 4th grade. He easily passed the new Common Core State ELA and Math testsRead More last year. This year, he is NOT taking them. I have no doubt he would "pass" again, but, really, is there any real value to passing a meaningless test? He consistently earns top scores on all classroom exams. He reads at an 8th grade level. He has nothing to prove, and I will not allow my 9 year old child to sit through more than 12 hours of tests to prove what we already know...he can read, write and do math at, at least, a 4th grade level. It is not kids like my son that I am concerned about. Other children are the ones hurt most by these tests. Like the little boy we know, who is one of the best math students in his grade, yet gets pulled from the classroom to attend mandatory remedial math instruction because of poor performance on last year's state tests. No one- not his parents, his teacher, or the remedial instructor-thinks this boy needs remedial instruction. Yet, it is mandatory because of a poorly written, ambiguous exam, that failed to test the concepts that the children were taught in the classroom. Many, many students are in similar situations. I am not against standardized tests in general. I allowed my son to take them last year and he performed well. Now that I realize how utterly meaningless the state tests are in their current form, and also just how many hours these poor little children are forced to sit through to take them, I am vehemently opposed to them. We have notified the school, in advance, of our decision to refuse the tests this year. I urge all parents to do the same. We will continue to refuse the tests every year, until the subject matter being tested actually has a real relationship to what the kids are being taught in the classroom, and until the 12 hour-long evaluation is reduced to a more reasonable length, one that 8 and 9 year olds can actually be expected to sit still and concentrate for.
Aidan April 11, 2014 at 10:04 pm
http://www.usnews.com/opinion/articles/2014/03/17/how-common-core-standards-kill-creative-teaching
Case closed April 23, 2014 at 08:01 pm
Parents are being told to attend tutoring for common core so they may help their children. If theRead More wheel ain't broke Stop trying to fix it. Case closed
Protesters stand outside of the News 12 studio in Woodbury on Monday to demand Gov. Andrew Cuomo to fix or scrap the controversial new Common Core curriculum. Credit: Monica Gleberman
Aidan April 13, 2014 at 05:56 am
Just trying to educate you … over and over again.
David April 13, 2014 at 02:18 pm
@Elsie I'll grant that it's a hard question for second grade. Students can show divisibility byRead More showing 12 being split into 4 equal parts, and again into 6 equal parts, with a diagram, but I think few second graders would get this right. Any second grader who gets this right is showing unusual mathematical talent, or at least unusual advancement in meeting common core standards. Don't we want to allow such unusual talent to be recognized? Especially in elementary grades these days, there seems so little opportunity for it these days.
Elsie April 18, 2014 at 04:23 pm
@David -- Talent should be recognized by differentiating instruction. Those 2nd graders who can doRead More this should, those who can't should be taught at a level that is more developmentally appropriate for them. There is very little room for enriching those students who should be or helping those students who need it using the Engage NY Modules. I am not a teacher but I have looked at the NY modules and the CC standards. I believe that teachers can address CC standards without the developmental inappropriateness of the NY requirements.
brad livingston February 5, 2014 at 08:50 am
SEAFORD opening on a two hour delay...LOL....better charge the no show teachers with a snow dayRead More excussal.........love to see who shows so they can be publically thanked for dedication and those that stayed in bed charged a day.
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concerned resident February 3, 2014 at 07:55 am
levittown schools are open!!! this is a joke every dist. is closed around us- i hope they have aRead More good plan to get the kids home safe!!!!!!!!
elizabeth baptiste February 3, 2014 at 09:10 am
How much snow is expected? So much for an early spring.
Karen February 3, 2014 at 10:33 am
Enough winter snow! Where's Global Warming when we want it back on a temporary basis?
Teresa Baldinucci January 30, 2014 at 04:49 pm
Well done!! We need to keep informing parents of their right to protect their children from theRead More abuses being fostered upon them. Common Core is nothing more than corporations and federal government attempting to take over the school districts that our tax dollars have paid for - and here on Long Island, we've paid plenty!! Fight back, parents!! Stand up for your kids and the education they deserve!! REFUSE THE TESTS!!!!
Mitchell Gross January 21, 2014 at 02:09 pm
I truly am baffled that the district did not call an early dismissal or cancellation of schoolRead More today. Although my children no longer attends my wife works there and with weather like today it makes not sense to endanger our parents and children by having them wait till 2:50 PM to go out and drive. I was out at noon and the roads were dangerous. Someone really needs to learn how to make smart calls in this district.
Mitchell Gross January 21, 2014 at 02:10 pm
just to continue, it seems only those bussed are considered - lets not forget that our teachers andRead More parents have to go out in this and it is not safe.
Gloria R January 22, 2014 at 08:40 am
To try to help combat bullying, songs can teach children about kindness and tolerance. The songRead More “Be a Buddy, not a Bully” can be heard on YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Or7WPUtUnRo